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In process of revising virtual system thread... information below needs to be updated...

After selling my system several years ago, I have been rebuilding and finally assembled a very satisfying system. Upgrades have been more frequent than recommended however, improvement with system synergy in mind is always welcome.

The system goals are to accurately portray lifelike music reproduction - vocals, harmonics, timbre, tonal textures, decay, etc. first and foremost... With that in mind, I want a full range, musical presentation with lifelike dynamic impact, both micro and macro.

We have recently moved into a new home, in which my loving wife allowed me to dedicate the 2nd floor bonus room (16'W x 22'L x 9'H) into a listening room. We had the rear wall configured with built in bookshelves for the vinyl albums, as well as pull out drawers for cd storage. Exposed beam coffered ceiling to help break up standing waves, as well as a double stagger stud wall behind the speakers (shared wall with master bedroom). There is also info in this thread about the "rebuild" of that entire wall...

With the excitement and joy of a dedicated listening room, came the room anomalies that plagued the music reproduction. A great pair of speakers (Meadowlark Audio Blue Heron 2's) were displaced in an attempt to move to a speaker with adjustable bass (Martin Logan Summit). As the Martin Logan's were on order - I became aware that adjustable bass will help, yet not fix the problem... thus started the "wall renovation project." As luck would have it, the room response was improved, however I had been struggling with placement of the Martin Logan Summits. Once finally "dialed in" when you would listen at moderate volumes, you would over excite the room a bit... I tried (for months) to get "permission" to hang drapes behind the Summits - the same ones on the side wall... but no green light. Alas, it was a festering concern that the room wasn't treated properly for the Summits to perform optimally. If they couldn't be allowed to perform their best, the search began for their replacements, and the Summits went up for sale.

As of a couple of weeks ago, I received delivery of the Salk Sound HT3's. They are currently breaking in, and I will be working on room placement and positioning in the upcoming weeks. I am looking forward to getting the system back to a "stable" point!

This is the system "snapshot" as of early September 2006.
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    • Porter Port Porter Port
    1 20A Porter Port utilized on each of the five dedicated 20A lines
    • Fusion Audio Enchanter 20A
    20A IEC used on the RSA D'mitri
    • Running Springs Audio D'Mitri
    Line conditioner
    • Fusion Audio Enchanter Power Cord
    Fusion Audio Enchanter power cord utilized on AMR CD-77
    • Abbingdon Music Research - AMR CD-77
    review here: http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/abbingdon/abbingdon.html
    • JPS Labs Aluminata - 1m Interconnect
    1 meter - from CD-77 to preamp
    • First Sound Audio Paramount Mk II Special Edition
    Top of the line 3 chassis unit offered by Emmanuel.
    • JPS Labs Aluminata - 1.5m Interconnect
    1.5 meter from preamp to mono blocks
    • Fusion Audio Enchanter Power Cord
    One on each H2o Audio M250 SE monoblock
    • H2o Audio M250SE (Special Edition Monoblocks)
    The absolute latest from the mind of Henry Ho. This takes the former top of the line M250 Signature and improves upon it. Details to follow. This is the latest top of the line set of monoblocks from H2o Audio... the M 250 Special Edition.
    • JPS Labs Aluminata 10 ft. Speaker Cable
    10 foot pair, used with Aluminata Jumpers
    • Meadowlark Audio Blue Heron 2
    Pommele Sapele sides and rear, Honduran Mahogany front baffle with dual offset Red Heart stringers.
    A phenominal 1st order, time & phase aligned, transmission line speaker. Have tried many other speakers that fail to produce music they way these speakers do.
    • Sistrum SP-101
    One under each Meadowlark Audio Blue Heron 2 speaker
    • Sony STR-DA5200ES
    http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=STRDA5200ES&INT=sstyle-homeaudiocomponents-tophero-7channel_receiver Used in Home Theater for center channel, and rear surrounds. Upconverts analog video to 1080p
    • Sony VPL-VW50
    http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/%3Cwbr%3EINTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=VPLVW50&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_FrontProjectionTVs

    1080p projector
    • Stewart Filmscreen Firehawk SST 100
    http://www.stewartfilmscreen.com/ Firehawk SST - optimized for Sony VPL-VW50 1080p projector - Luxus Deluxe
    • JL Audio Fathom 113's (x 2)
    http://home.jlaudio.com/products_subs.php?prod_id=371 Pair of these 130 lb. each monsters... Used in HT
    • Onix Rocket - RSC200
    http://www.av123.com/products_product.php?section=speakers&product=100.1 Center channel speaker - used in HT
    • Onix Rocket - RSS300's
    http://www.av123.com/products_product.php?section=speakers&product=7.1 Rear surround speakers. Used in HT
    • StudioTech U-22T RW/B
    Component Stand - 67" W x 22" H
    • Eighth Nerve Room Pack
    Accoustic room treatment
    • --- Room Renovation --- (listed below)
    pics attached
    • Room Reno - Room Prep - Rear Wall
    Pic of the rear wall. Everything was removed and the shelving for the vinyl was tarped and taped. Furniture that was not moved out of the room was also tarped over.
    • Room Reno - Front Wall - Before
    Pic of the front wall before renovation commenced.
    • Room Reno - Drywall Removal
    Pic of the start... drywall cut above and below metal furring strips in horizontal rows to allow for removal of drywall
    • Room Reno - Drywall Removal continues
    Pic taken after 8 solid hours of work. The metal furring strips were spaced 12" apart. Screws had to be removed from the strips as well as all of the blown insulation.
    • Room Reno - Furring Strips
    This pic shows how poorly the furring strips were installed in some of the areas.
    • Room Reno - Front Wall - drywall mostly down
    Pic of the front wall with most of the drywall removed. There are still some metal furring strips up to be removed.
    • Room Reno - Front Corner - Drywall Removal
    Pic of front corner, most of the drywall removed, metal furring strips yet to be removed.
    • Room Reno - Front Corner - Progress
    Pic of the drywall removed, metal furring strips removed, and insullation removed. Some original studs are removed and laying on the floor.
    • Room Reno - Studs
    stack of studs ready to be installed...
    • Room Reno - Front Wall - New Stud Installation
    Pic of the new studs being installed
    • Room Reno - Front Wall - New Stud CloseUp
    pic close up... studs were glued with Liquid Nails, and screwed together with 3" drywall screws. Spacing was roughly on 9" centers.
    • Room Reno - Front Wall - New Studs Complete
    Pic of the front wall... studs are complete, and insulation installed.
    • Room Reno - Front Wall - Plywood Begins
    Pic of the front wall... 3/4" tongue & groove plywood being installed. Liquid Nails and 3" drywall screws.
    • Room Reno - Front Corner - Plywood Continues
    Pic of the front corner, plywood installation continues
    • Room Reno - Front Wall - Plywood Complete
    Pic of all the plywood up. All Liquid Nailed and screwed with 3" drywall screws. The white lines in seams and around outlets is acoustical sealant caulk.
    • Room Reno - Front Wall - First Layer Drywall
    Pic of the first layer of drywall going up.
    • Room Reno - Front Wall - First Layer Drywall Up
    Pic of the first layer of drywall up. Audio Alloy's "Green Glue" was used between drywall and plywood. First layer was mudded prior to second layer going up. Yes, one piece of drywall is backwards, as the Green Glue was applied before it was realized...
    • Room Reno - Front Wall - Layer Two Drywall Up
    Pic of the front wall, second layer of drywall up and initial mudding
    • Room Reno - Front Corner - Second Layer Drywall
    Pic of the second layer of drywall up and initial mudding
    • Room Reno - Front Wall - Semi Final Mudding
    Pic of the front wall - semi final mudding
    • Room Reno - Front Corner - Semi Final Mudding
    Pic of the front corner - semi final mudding
    • Room Reno - Front Wall - Primer Application
    Pic of the coat of primer being apllied - before final mudding and sanding then final paint
    • Room Reno - Front Corner - Final Paint
    Pic of the front corner, final coat of paint
    • Room Reno - Front Wall - Finished
    Pic of front wall - finished and ready for system to be put back together.
    • Room Reno - Front Corner - Finished
    Pic of the front corner, finished and ready to have system moved back into the room and set up.

Comments 316

Owner
System edited: Power cord changes. After trying a couple of Fusion Audio's Enchanters on my monoblocks (replacing Purist Audio Design Dominus Rev. C's) I came to the conclusion I wanted to audition more... after comparing against the Purist Audio Anniversary Contego, and another Dominus Rev. C, both have been replaced with Fusion Audio cords. A Fusion Audio Impulse was placed on the front end, and a 20A IEC on the BPT 3.5 Sig. Plus.

audiofankj

Owner
Vince - Good to hear they are in and breaking in. I read a few of the reviews. Don't make any judgements until about 600+ hours of break in on those V-CAPS!

Larry - I am humbled. Thanks for the kind words. Personal email sent. You are welcome anytime. I would recommend after a few more weeks, as I am limping along with an iPod for a source at this time as my new front end delivery has been delayed...

Sherod - Yeah, I will enjoy a movie or two a month with the wife. When I do get some time to relax I still find myself listening 80-85% of the time with the projector off. I wanted to maximize the seating, thus went for eight comfy. :)

Albert - Thanks as well. I really need to try and get some better photos. I just picked up a new digital camera and with the lighting being recessed, the front wall and ceiling dark chocolate - does not make for the most representative photo... unless of course you happen to know someone who knows how to use a camera! ? :)

Another few weeks and the AMR CD-77 should be landing.

audiofankj

V-Caps in...... and they need some more breaking in. I have Michael Hedges on now happily strumming away.

so, you were right. (gulp)

muralman1

Great job Kirk, you've outdone yourself. Even better than before.

albertporter

Wow, Kirk! I can't believe all the nice comfortable chairs you've added. Are you opening a little mini-theatre for your neighbors? A little admission charge could help in system pay back. I hope you are enjoying the movies as well as the music.

sherod

Hello Kirk,
WOW! Holey Crap!!
What a transformation, it’s even more beautiful!!!
Sorry, It’s been a while since I have looked at your system, way to go. I have to hear this baby sometime. Please send me a private email and once again include your general location. Maybe I can stop by sometime (with advanced notice) if I’m in the area.
Best regards,

lak

Hi Kirk,

My V-Caps are on the way. I can only guess what the improvements will be. I already have never heard Apogees sound so good.

Vince

muralman1

Owner
Hi Rumadian. Thank you for the kind words. Some of my system thread information needed a good "dusting off" and I think I updated the majority of it.

The Meadowlark Blue Heron 2's are an absolutely fine sounding speaker in my mind. I am still holding out hope Patrick McGinty will resurface with a continuation of his fine work.

As for the H2o's, I spoke with Henry a few weeks back and he stated he had made a pair of Signature Mono's with the V-Caps and it was not much less than astounding. I find this interesting as Henry is very reserved in his explanations, and just how well the pair of Signature Mono's I owned worked! This truly must be something I need to hear again... soon perhaps.

Please keep me posted how your H2o sounds after a few hundred hours have passed. :)

audiofankj

Owner
System edited: System pictures and equipment list updated on the virtual system thread.

audiofankj

Owner
Hi Vince,

Yeah, I have tried various caps in many different types of components over the years.

I think some of it is the caps and some of it is dependant upon the implimentation of the caps in the design and associated electronics in the circuit.

Just thought you may want to speak with Henry about his thoughts in comparison to the signature model you have.

Happy listening!

audiofankj

You've got a very fine system. I always enjoyed the time I spent with the Meadowlark Kestrel 2's and the Swallows. I can only imagine how sweet those Blue Heron 2's sound!

As an interesting side; I've taken in the H2O Signature 150 amplifier (Henry's 100 wpc stereo amp). I ran it roughly a year ago; this revised version with the new caps is simply stunning. It is rare for me to use the word "best"; but when it comes to high powered class D - I just haven't heard anything even close.

As for the Fire - sometime soon... oh yes :)

rumadian

I meant to say I wondered if you have had experience with other caps.

muralman1

Kirk, there is some negative noise going on about V-Caps. Some chaps in Europe found better caps. Another found Sonicaps superior. I have Theta bypass caps on all four big caps. My sound is damn good compared to the real thing.

muralman1

Owner
Hi Vince, from what Henry had to say about the V-Caps, it sounds like you could be missing quite a lot! Make sure to give him a call. They must really fit into his design to have him think so highly of the upgrade. Let me know what you hear.

I have the AMR CD-77 on order, and am patiently awaiting its arrival.

Here is a link to a review on 6 moons.

Have an enjoyable 4th!

audiofankj

Kirk, you are on the right track, that is for sure. I sure wish I could hear the Meadowlark. It seems those guys did something extraordinary with the box speaker genre.

I have installed bridging caps, and improved modules. Since I can't hear anything lacking in my playback, I am at a loss wondering what I might be missing without the V-Caps. I will have to talk to Henry. I'm sure I can do that operation myself.

What front end do you have on order? Guido sent me a note on his new TentLabs CDP kit. It was given a complimentary reviewed at 6Moons. It's a NOS player.

Happy Listening!

muralman1

Owner
Hi Sherod - Yeah, I am somewhere near the end of getting the system rebuilt as of now. I have decided to go with the latest Synergistic Research Tesla series interconnects and speaker cables. They are astounding - especially given the current state of my system in flux. I am still trying some different power cords, and will most likely await arrival of the new front end. Hopefully it will be here this month!

Mark it is always good to hear from you! I look forward to picking your brain on NOS tubes for the Dodd 120's now that things are starting to wind down with the major changes.

Vince - Yep - back to my Meadowlark Audio Blue Heron 2's. I was hoping to see Pat McGinty resurface by now, but it doesn't look like that is the case. I have had very good luck with the performance of these speakers. Speaking of the other big fish you mention - I spoke with Henry a few weeks ago and he mentioned he made a pair of Sig Mono's with the new V-Caps and the improvement was *not* subtle. You may want to give him a call and arrange to send your pair in for a "tune up." :) The cd player I have on order should give the top of the line AN front end gear a run for its money... time will tell.

Art - We definately have to burn a few minutes on the phone again soon. I have been working 60 hour weeks on average with the new job - which isn't all bad as I like the company, the position, and the people. The time flies by, however not much is left for tweaking and typing! Thus far the BH2's are singing with the Dodd gear. I am still awaiting my new front end - the AMR CD-77. Once that arrives I will swap some NOS tubes into the preamp and amps as well. Audition and settle on a few power cords, and then most likely look into a music server I can feed into the AMR.

Latest change - added a pair of Sistrum SP-101's under my Meadowlark Blue Heron 2's. As I rebuilt the room and system for dual purpose 2-channel and home theater, I set the second row upon a riser to be able to see over the front row... in my infinite wisdom *cough* I somehow forgot that would elevate the listening position. With the addition of the SP-101 platforms I have raised the tweeter height back to where it should be in relation to seating position. The sonics may also benefit from the stands. They have only been installed for a couple of hours as of now. The mids and highs seem more articulate, however the bottom end seems to be leaner... this may change after a day or two. Once the wife sees the platforms they may be going up for sale as well. They aren't the last word in stability! Heh.

Will have to check in on this thread more often. Have a great Fourth of July!

audiofankj

Kirk - things have certainly changed since we last spoke, looking great and I bet the Heron's are killer with the Dodd stuff...we need to catch up sometime.

Art

arthursmuck

Back to Meadowlark, eh? Man, I want to hear those. They have to be special box speakers.

Hey, if ever decide to cast in for other lost big fish, I would love for you to dress it with the lowly Anti-Cable, and the best AN DAC and transport your money can buy.

muralman1

Nice system Kirk, and a nice room too!

1markr

Hi Kirk,
I'm glad to see that you're getting your system rebuilt. I'll be anxious to see what mix of power cords and interconnects you end up with. Please keep us posted.

sherod

Owner
Added a couple of photos - hard to get the digital to take decent photos with limited light. (Ken you will have to bring your Leica over!)

Just added a current photo of the front of the system. Difficult to see due to lighting... Will try to grab some better photos soon.

audiofankj

Owner
System edited: Back in November I had made a decision to persue a new speaker venture that I felt was going to make an enormous impact at it's price point in the market. I still do believe they will be an overachiever at more than their retail price point. However, after more than six months of patiently waiting the release of these new speakers - the decision was made to move in another direction. The refund request was graciously granted. A sincere thank you to an un-named gentleman. As luck would have it, the local buyer of my original pair of Meadowlark Blue Heron 2's called and asked if I would be interested in purchasing them - I asked for the right of refusal if they ever decided to sell them. It was a 'no brainer' to me. I have owned several speakers that have perhaps slightly excelled in one or two areas better than the Meadowlark Audio Blue Heron 2's, however at the expense of losing in another area. They are once again happily set up, and making music. I have made the decision to swap around some cabling as well and have just received new cabling last Friday... that has been placed into the system and is breaking in now. New speaker cabling, and new interconnects. I will most likely be playing with power cables next. I will try to take some photos of the room changes and get them posted soon.

audiofankj

Hey Kirk,

Cant wait to see ( and hear) the new gear! Congrats on putting together this latest endeavor..I know its been a long, frustrating wait for the new speaks..I have a feeling its gonna be good!

Best,
Ken

kehut

AF...

I'm excited to see what you got planned for this weekend. Post pics!

Joey :)

joey_v

Owner
Changes in the works. Should have some of them posted soon - perhaps this weekend.

audiofankj

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