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If you saw my previous system you already know that I'm the Italian distributor of some brands, so please be aware of this. I'm also a Music lover and a real passionate of audio gears since 1987... when I was fifteen. The new reference system with German Physiks omnidirectional speakers is something that you can easily appreciate if you are used to attend live music events. With the entering of this fabulous speaker the sound can be now compared with real music only. Dynamics, liveliness, timbric accuracy and all of the other words normally used to describe a great system seem now pointless: just put a piano sonata recording, or a live jazz double-bass, sax and drums trio, or even a single female voice... then close your eyes. You'll hear the musicians in your room as never happened before. When you hear what this system is capable of, there is no going back. And you will start rediscovering all your music collection... as happened to me.
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    • Wadia 270 SE
    The 270 SE took the place of the standard 270.
    • Viola Audio Labs Cadenza
    Wonderful. Its father is Paul Jayson.
    • Audio Ars Reference Valve
    Battery supplied preamp, 35 kgs, hard to beat...
    • Audio Ars Reference
    Reference DAC: should I add something ?
    • Viola Audio Labs Bravo
    Pure music. Designed by Tom Colangelo.
    • Kuzma Stabi Ref
    The great Reference table made by Franc Kuzma in Slovenia. Known all other the world.
    • Kuzma Stogi Ref
    The perfect match for the Ref TT.
    • Koetsu Signature Red
    Not a bad cartridge... ;-)
    • German Physiks Loreley
    Omnidirectional speaker from German based company. German Physiks is often the first choice of many important musicians all over the world and a statement for the most expert and demanding audiophiles. Not surprisingly, they are not for all pockets.

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Hi Luca thank you for the above info. I really appreciate it.

dev

Hi Luca that's the kind of info. I'm looking for and really appreciate it. Sounds to me that I would be pursuing Carbon and yes I fully agree the DDD driver must be amazing if it does that properly but as we all know there is no perfect speaker so what is the down side besides the size and cost?

Okay I noticed you had the PQS-402 speaker and now the Loreley, is the Loreley you have the MK2 version?

What is the difference between these two speakers as I see the Loreley has a additional DDD driver. What does this add to the over all sound reproduction because the suggested list is almost double the cost, do you get your monies worth or is it minimal like 5% better?

I also noticed you are using the same mono blocks to drive both, what's the recommended power to drive these properly and to their full potential. Are these hard to drive like my MBL's?

Thanks for your time.

dev

Hi Luca thanks for your response.

Regarding the DDD full range driver I heard there were problems with it at one time so are you aware if those issues are non existent now? I don't want to worry about reliability or have to be careful how load I play etc. those days are gone when I use to have a pair of speakers with CERAMIC drivers and they would get damaged.

When I owned the Eggleston's you could throw any thing at them, you could turn them up with no worries and the same goes with my current MBL's.

What is the main sonic differences between these two versions one being the later Carbon version that you referred to.

Just so that I clarify a little regarding my listening taste when I mentioned male and female vocals this obviously includes all kinds of instruments. One of my pet peeves is when I listen to systems and specific instruments don't sound real or when there are bass notes there is no body or tone or not controlled properly. I was just listening to a piece of music earlier today and you could feel the presence along with hearing the base being played. I could count the base notes and hear the actual plucking of the strings, hearing the fingers on the actual strings them selves which was amazing. So what I'm looking for is realism and when I put on a piece of music on for example and it's a drummer player then that drum set should sound realistic and set-up within my room along with any other instruments being played and obviously voices. People think voices are easy to reproduce but really they aren't. Just last week I was over listening to a very expensive system and while listening to Willie Nelson and Johnny Cash piece the chesty sound was not accurate, it was okay but not convincing and the strings of the guitar you could hear but you could not hear or feel them being actually played. I am very spoiled now with my present set-up so the task at hand will not be all that easy to surpass as this is a tool at that I refer to.

These speakers really do intrigue me and I look forward to hearing a pair to see if they are for me or not.

dev

Hi Luca,

Thanks for the reply.

The Isis are really good speakers but for me I just found them not filling the room the way I wanted and some other issues which there is no need to go into. The room size is 35 ft by 28 ft ceiling is clean 9ft 3 inches. This room is in the basement of my home designated for two channel only.

Regarding music taste, I listen all types but recently find my self really enjoying vocals female and male. I like listening to Theatre pieces also like Oliver, Stage Heroes, I listen to Jazz and a bit of classical.

Regarding what I'm looking for well the full spectrum, a system that can do it all leaving me wanting to put more music on and non fatiguing.

Thanks for the contact info.

Shows really are tough that's why I don't even bother going.

I am going to send you over a pic of my other system with the MBL's and CAT's.

dev

Hi Luke so anything new and interesting, it's been a while with any posts.

Regarding these speakers you have whats the list price.

I am now starting to research for a speaker for my designated room and have interest in this line but have no clue of list prices for any of them, nor have I ever heard them. In this room I use to have Avalon Isis speakers which I sold over a year ago along with all the gear so the room sits empty. The speakers were really nice but I found that they just did not fill my room the way I was wanting them to and some other negatives that I don't need to get into. I have had a few large speakers and find them very hard to sell off if for some reason I deside I don't want them so I want to make sure that I make the right choice this time arround doing more research and then listening and build around them.

Short list is the Rockport Altair, Audio Physic Kronos but non of these offer the Omni directional.

I have another system set-up but in a living room set-up which consist of MBL101E's which I really enjoy which replaced Eggleston speakers and you really can not compare the two.

I just recently purchased some new CAT JL3 Sig. MK2's mono blocks to see how they work with the MBL's. Were you at the Vegas show? if you were did you get to hear the Berning mono blocks set-up with the smaller Physic speakers, reason I ask is that I have placed a order for a pair of these to compare to my current amps. What was your thought if you did, are these amps all up to what the talk is?

Now to the not so good, well we all know all speakers have there weakness or faults, what have you found these to be with these current speakers you have.

dev