Description

this room and system is the result of 10 years in High End audio. my system has been stable for a couple of years (except for transport and amplifier upgrades within the same brand). the room has been in the planning stage for about 18 months and i actually moved in a little over a month ago.

my audio philosphy is to have the system get out of the way of the event. i like as pure and simple a signal path as possible and, at this point, prefer passive to active gain stages. i love all the formats and enjoy having lot's of music.....vinyl is my favorite but i listen to at least 60% digital. the new room really reveals the benefits of SACD over redbook.

the system and room truely allow the event to be recreated before me. i love the way the speakers disappear and i am transported to another place/time.

i have choosen my cables, sources, amps, speakers to have as little of their own sound as possible.

recently, i upgraded my digtial transport from the modified Philips SACD 1000 to the new emmlabs CDSD.....this was a significant step upward in performance.

i have written an article in Positive Feedback regarding my room building experience.....here is a link;

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue16/lavigneroom.htm
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Room Details

Dimensions: 29’ × 21’  X large
Ceiling: 11’


Components Toggle details

    • Evolution Acoustics MM7's
    twin towers, main tower, 82
    • darTZeel NHB-468
    Mono block Amplifiers. 

    traded in my 458 amplifiers for the new version, the 468.
    • darTZeel NHB-18NS with 2 internal phono stages.
    battery powered preamp with 2 separate phono stages. uses BNC 'zeel' cables between pre and amps.
    • Evolution Acoustics 7.5 meter 'Zeel'
    7.5 meter pair of BNC cables from preamp to amps.
    • Evolution Acoustics 'System' speaker cables--10 feet
    new version of these cables, a big step over the amazing TRSC model i have used for 10 years. fantastic performance.
    • WADAX SA Reference DAC
    Wadax Reference Dac----state of the art dac with 2 separate power supplies. the best dac i have heard by a good margin. below is a link to a thread about my Wadax experience.

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/wadax-reference-dac-and-server-arrive.34173/#post-771357
    • WADAX SA Reference Server with Akasa optical interface
    ultimate state of the art music server using Roon. includes the Akasa optical interface.
    • CS Port LFT1 turntable w/arm
    air bearing platter and air bearing linear tracking arm; string drive with zero feedback dc motor, low pressure, low flow air system with zero noise air box.

    world class musical flow, nuance and delicacy, combined with authority and ease. serves the music completely.
    • Esoteric T1 Turntable
    magnetic drive/rim drive idler turntable with torque adjustment.

    https://www.esoteric.jp/en/product/t1/top
    • Esoteric G1X Master Clock
    Master Clock Generator for speed improvement for the T1 turntable.

    https://www.esoteric.jp/en/product/g1x/top
    • Wave Kinetics NVS
    direct drive turntable
    • Durand ---Two Tosca tonearms.
    gimbal bearing design. the finest tonearm i have heard.

    one Tosca on the Esoteric T1 turntable

    one Tosca on the Wave Kinetics NVS turntable
    • Primary Control 12" FCL tone arm
    Field Coil Loaded uni-pivot tone arm. with power supply.

    amazing natural and very high resolution tone arm. link below.

    https://www.primarycontrol.nl/Field_Coil_Loaded_Unipivot_Tonearm.html
    • Durand Tonearms 12" Telos, wood arm wand
    12" tone arm, uni pivot.
    • Experience Music/Intact Audio phono corrector + silver wound MC Trio SUT combo for three different tonearms.
    bespoke tubed phono preamplifier. silver wound, with custom dual power supplies.

    https://myemia.com/LR.html
    • LFD -3- Phono Cables DIN to RCA
    3 sets of very high performance phono cables. amazing performance. built by Dr. Richard Bews in the UK.

    one cable uses a DIN to RCA short Dongle + an RCA to RCA interconnect. the Dongle improves the performance of the DIN connection. details at the link below.

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/lfd-cables-phono-and-i-c-from-the-uk-cables-as-components.31243/
    • DaVa Reference cartridge
    field coil cartridge. with tube power supply.
    • two Etsuro Golds, ---a pair of Reference MC Phono Cartridges.
    duraluminim (A7075) body, 24 carat 'Kinpaku' Gold Leaf finish, diamond cantiliver. .3mv output, 4 ohms. these are both special versions of the Etsuro Gold.

    one is mounted on the CS Port linear tracker.

    one is mounted on the Primary Control FCL arm.

    finest cartridge i have heard by a significant margin. WOW!
    • Audio Technica MC-2022 60th Anniversary cartridge
    uses the unified stylus cantilever design. which results in extreme lack of distortion and linearity. maybe the best i've heard at musical truth.

    mounted on the Durand Tosca tonearm on the NVS tt.

    https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/at-mc2022
    • Koetsu Azule Platinum Stone Body, boron cantilever
    .3 Mv output moving coil cartridge. mounted on the Durand Telos 12" wood arm wand tone arm and NVS turntable.
    • Miyajima Labs --2--Infinity mono cartridge's.
    one Infinity cartridge has 0.7mil stylus for modern narrow groove mono pressings.

    one Infinity cartridge has 1.0 mil stylus for early wide groove mono pressings.

    https://www.miyajima-lab.com/e-mono.html
    • DS Audio Ion 001 Vinyl Ionizer
    generates positive and negative ions to remove static charge from vinyl records. i use this with my NVS turntable.

    https://ds-audio-w.biz/products/181/
    • CS Port Static Eliminator IME1 (two of them)
    An unprecedented accessory focusing on cartridge friction. It suppresses the effects of static electricity and makes records clearer.

    one is on the CS Port tt, one on the Esoteric T1 tt.

    https://www.csport.audio/products/products-ime1-en.html
    • Stage III Concepts 1.5 meter XLR set of Gorgon interconnects.
    high performance interconnects. used from the Wadax Reference dac to the darTZeel preamp.

    http://aaudioimports.com/ShowProduct.asp?hProduct=283
    • Ampex twin ATR-102----one 1/4" and one 1/2" reel to reel master recorder
    hot rodded by ATR Service Inc----Andrew Kosobutsky. significant upgrades over stock. each interfacing with hot rodded Ampex MR-70 preamps.

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/ak-hot-rodded-ampex-atr-102s-w-mr-70-preamps-replaces-my-studers.36288/
    • Kosobutsky 1.5 meter set of RCA interconnects + 8 meter set of XLR interconnects.
    1.5 meter set of RCA interconnects are used between the EMIA phono corrector and the darTZeel preamp.

    8 meter set is used between the Ampex MR 70 tape preamps and the darTZeel preamp.
    • Nordost QRT QNET network switch
    Network switch, with Nordost Qsource power supply.

    https://www.nordost.com/qrt-audio-enhancers.php
    • Synology 30 Terabyte NAS (a pair = 60 TB) music file storage
    mirroring music storage for my music files.
    • Taiko Tana (5 of them) Herzan TS-150 (2) + TS-140 (3)
    active isolation under 5 separate components: (1) the NVS turntable, (2) the MSB dac, (3) the darTZeel preamp, (4 + 5) both darTZeel mono block amplifiers. custom modifications by Taiko Audio add a linear power supply plus panzerholtz top layer + Daiza platform to provide full frequency resonance attenuation to each platform.
    • Taiko Audio Daiza isolation platform--22 used in the system
    Panzerholtz Platform with spiral cutouts reducing mid and high frequency resonance while retaining life and energy and not changing tonality.

    22 Daiza platforms in the system of various sizes under every piece of the signal path.
    • Adona Zero GTX rack---3 of them--each 4 shelf.
    all three with 27" x 21" turntable top.

    solid rack for best direct floor connection.
    • Evolution Acoustics 'system' power cables
    a new version of the TRPC model i used on my darTZeel 468 mono blocks for the last 10 years. a big step up.
    • Sablon Audio King power cord
    used on the Wadax Reference Server.

    https://www.sablonaudio.com/power
    • Absolute Fidelity power interfaces
    power cords specifically designed for either motors (tt and tape decks), amplifiers, and components. 11 in the system.
    • Tripoint Audio Troy Signature
    Grounding box for chassis grounding the darTZeel 458 mono block amplifiers + grounding the passive main towers of the Evolution Acoustics MM7 speaker system.
    • Tripoint Audio Elite
    Tripoint Elite grounding box. this does chassis grounding for my sources. it uses a a pair of Tripoint Thor SE Master Reference ground cables for my dart preamp and the MSB Select II dac. there are also 4 Signature Silver ground cables to the two arm boards of the NVS tt, the power supply of the NVS tt, and the SGM server.
    • Equi=tech 10WQ
    10kva balanced Isoltion transformer and distribution panel.
    • Furutech GTX-D NCF Rhodium duplex outlets
    10 in the system. used with 10 Furutech covers and frames. uses NCF (nano crystal formula) material to reduce noise by emitting negative ions.
    • Wave Kinetics A10 U8 decoupling footers
    8 sets-of-4 in the system for individual tuning of each piece of gear.
    • Auralex T-Fusor diffusers
    i use 20 of these. 6 each on the front side walls, and 4 each front ceiling and rear ceiling.
    • Klaudio Record Cleaning System
    automatic record cleaner
    • Acoustic Revive RL-30 mKIII CD-LP demagnatizer
    for demaging any disc.
    • Furutech DF-2 LP disc flattner
    will remove warps from Lps
    • Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Anniversary Ed.
    will cook any cables
    • Winds ALM-01 Stylus Force Gauge
    easy accurate, repeatable, measurments.
    • i-Tower by Koncept LED floor lamp
    (3) are used. best audio light ever. 2 'warm', 1 'cool'.
    • Quietrock THX 545 drywall
    specialized drywall with a 1/4" metal layer. used in my front sidewalls to establish proper room boundaries.
    • view...... what i look at...
    ...while listening. Rattlesnake Ridge.
    • Barn.... ......room is....
    ....most of the ground floor. 29' x 21' x 11'.

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Many thanks, Mike, for hosting me at your wonderful listening room.

As much as I like the system, I appreciate your friendship and hospitality.

I enjoyed listening to your spectacular system. The speakers are so coherent and powerful and their  audio rendering was absolutely superb.

gallant_diva

I liked the sound of the iPhone ringing in the video ;-)

gallant_diva

Mike, I have been absent from audio for mor ethan a year now and hardly peeked here. But when you think of systems here, I think of your system first. You are a dedicated man who has contributed to this hobby in an untiring manner. And now that I am looking at what improvements you made, I am like "wow" :)

Keep it up, pal.

By the way I am soon going to post my system here again.

gallant_diva

Mike: I predicted you would convert to tubes, remember? Good to see you changes and the pictures... they are awesome.

gallant_diva

Mike:

Very nice table indeed. ALso love you 'iLights"

I also see some diffusors on the wall. Are they hollow or stuffed?

gallant_diva

Mike:

Drinking water quality will affect health which in turn will affect listening :-)

gallant_diva

MIke:

Thanks for the information but I think it is expensive (may be worth the price though). By the way what makees you say we have crap power? ;-)

Did you know we have the cleanest water in the country?
According to the latest reuslt of the Envoronmental Working Group, the following are the top cities for drinking water:

Cities with the best water:

1.Arlington, TX
2.Providence, RI
3.Fort Worth, TX
4.Charleston, SC
5.Boston, MA
6.Honolulu, HI
7.Austin, TX
8.Fairfax County, VA
9.St. Louis, MO
10.Minneapolis, MN

Can someone do the electricity analysis please :-)

gallant_diva

Mike:

It sounds very exciting (I am salivating). Is the same "separate transformer" that you mentioned to me you were thinking of installing? Do you mind telling (may be through PM) the total cost of this.

Is is interesting that you mentioned the "mid-night magic".
I have the same observation in my system. When I mention to my visitors the difference in the sound of my system between the day time and night time, some of them suspect I may be exaggerating but after listening they do conclude the difference is actually "day-and-night".

gallant_diva

Mike: You said it so well and succinctly summarized the entire characteristics of the A90. I would just add tiny bit to what you said: The A90 covers the entire frequency spectrum and yet sings. And it has all the resolution and details and yet remains musical.

gallant_diva

Congratulations Mike. I am sure many of the 1500 are a gem.

gallant_diva

Mike: I have an LP by the same Chinese vocalist. I will see if I can get hold another copy. If I do, I will send it to you as a gift.

Regarding the auralex reflectors, I forgot to ask you what are they stuffed with. I have been using other kind of auralex diffusors on my side walls and front wall ( see my system side walls http://cgim.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/vs.pl?vaslt&1066703453&viewitem&o8) but I am interested in trying the reflectors you are using. I think they better be stuffed, otherwise they can affect bass.

gallant_diva

I said "I think that should make the midrange gloom a bit more. "

Sorry, I meant to say lowering some bass would make the midrange glow and shine, not gloom.

gallant_diva

Mike:

Allow me to thank you for your generous hospitality at your great listening room last Saturday. I totally enjoyed my visit and it was a great pleasure meeting you again after some 3-4 years. You are a great listener as well as a great host. Your room is a state-of-the-art and sounds much better now, thanks to all those well thought of recent mods you have done to it. I think you have made some very smart moves by reinforcing your walls, removing the bass traps (I myself do not care for those and have none in my room now). The room is less damp and thus has more life to it than before.

Needless to say, your equipment and software collection is awesome, especially your sources. Your greatest asset however is not your hospitality or equipment collection but the passion you have for this hobby, which has two implications: First, your passion contributes to the hobby by pushing the expectations of high-end audio to its limit. Second, you generously share all this with friends in audio. You are surely a star audiophile, shining right up there among the very best bunch.

It all started with my driving to your beautiful home nestled among spectacular trees in front of a gorgeous mountain. After chatting for more than 15 minutes, we were on to the listening business. We spent several hours listening to a wide variety of music, using some of disks and LPs that I had brought with me as well as your own collection. Your repertoire of audio gear includes the spectacular MM3 speakers drive by the Dartzeel electronics. The driving force behind the system is the mighty Rockport Serius III turntable and a very good CD player, in addition to the Technics and Gerrard turntables. And finally, the grand daddy of them all, the Studer Tape Deck. Nevertheless, I think the Rockport still stands as the king of all the audio gear you have.

The sound was full, detailed, smooth, relaxed, precise and musical. You asked me to be “brutally critical and honest” and so was I. It was all music delivered by layers and layers of high quality audio rendered with extreme precision and fine touch. The system sounds neither like solid state nor tubes, and that is your philosophy. It should be neutral and I agree with that. However, I am in contrast a tube freak and that is where our taste may differ. But that is ok, it is like picking different favorite dishes from the same menu. One is not necessarily more right than the other.

The music I had brought with me covered an extensive range of music, ranging from female and male vocalists, classical orchestral music, jazz, world music, some Rock, choir, as well as some wild but musical stuff which I have collected from around the world. That included some astonishing Chinese music such as opera and vocalists. I was glad to know you liked all. We basically enjoyed every piece that we played because I do not like to waste time on any less than perfect stuff, so I did not bring anything sounding less than spectacular. The stuff that you played also was an equal match as well. The sound was simply glorious no matter what we played.
The bass was powerful. I had taken a special CD with Chinese drums which are my favorite tool for room shaking. They did shake the shelves and the backdoor. The speakers however remained calm and without stress, which is their best trade.

After spending a couple of hours on digital, we moved on to analog. I really enjoyed the Ella Fitzgerlad LP and other vocalists. The tone arm on the Gerard was the Reed arm. I was glad to hear the Ortofon sounding so well - since I have purchased one myself I do not think I will regret it. We played both the Rockport and the Gerard and made some interesting comparative observations. The Gerard sounds awesome too but the Rockport is without any contest. At the end it was clear that the Rockport is better even though the Gerard has some interesting characteristics in its own way. The A-90 was played on both the tables with different VTF. As you mentioned in a separate thread, the VTF on the Gerrad was less than 2.0 and it sounded good.

Finally, towards the last end of the four hour of focused, serious but joyful listening, the finale was “Jazz on the Pawnshop” played through the Studer. Befittingly, it was the best sound of the evening.

Criticism? Basically, none, even though I would have done a few things different myself. But it is your system so I cannot say anything. However, one suggestion which I have the urge would be to may be raise the midrange a bit (500-1K HZ range) or alternatively lower the bass, lets say, by 0.5 db. I think that should make the midrange gloom a bit more. I also think there can be a bit more flesh and body in the sound but that is perhaps I am used to good tube sound. My guess is you will eventually convert to tubes, may be when you upgrade in a few years to your next amp, but who knows :) But that is all really. It was very pleasant and wonderful evening, my friend. Thanks again. I look forward to your listening to my system.

gallant_diva

I see. BTW, styrofoam also has some absorption and the skyline pattern also has some but the overall effect is minor compared to the benefit. But yes, styrofoam would be ideal for this diffusor and better than an absorbing foam and wood.

I tolerate some absorbption in my system because I have a tweeter which is fuller if not hot. But I would definitely want to try the styrofoam based skyline. Would you please let me get in touch with your friend who made it so that I can get some information from him about the material required. Thanks.

gallant_diva

Sorry, I meant to say my aborption panel is now 6' by 2' (not 6' by 4').

gallant_diva

Thanks for the detailed reply..........it answers my question very well. What you were saying all made sense until when you mentioned that the double panel made it worse. But then it all made sense again towards the end of your response when you mentioned that it is made of foam.

I am not expert on the subject but I have experiment a lot recently with both diffusors and absorbers., with the sole objective of improving imaging. If you look at the picture of my system, I have a red panel placed at the same place. Recently I have extended it 6' by 4' just like yours. Even though my speakers (dipole planar) are different from yours, we are experiencing the same effect.

First of all yours looks positively nice, as you mentioned. Mine is spoiling the carved painting it is covering but then the sound takes precedence over looks.

However, Mike, since your panel is also made of foam it is the absorbing effect that is affecting more than the diffusion effect. And the effect on imaging is that it is canceling the cross-talk between the two speakers, which in turn means more separation between the left and right speaker, which in turn means more focused central image.

So it works fine for you and also for me. The only problem is that the foam also sucks up some life out of music, even though the overall gain on imaging may be worth it. I want to replace my foam with wooden skyline panels. But you are right it would be awfully heavy and that is the concern. I will still try one though.

Another possibility is to find some other non-foam material which would not cause any absorption but would have the skyline diffusion to achieve the same effect.

I wonder if I could make a panel by using Styrofoam. I have styrofoam metro diffusors to cover my side walls. They stop side reflections but they do not achieve the same effect on the central spot. If I can find a good 2" by 2" Styrofoam rods, then a good skyline diffusor can be built.

gallant_diva

Thank you Mike. I do not have nay plans to visit Seattle yet but if I do I will certainly be glad to come by. Your passion for the hibby is commendable as you host so many visitors. That requires time and energy.

By the way you are also weclome to visit me.

yes, Winston's new disks are amazing. By the way, I would appreciate your comment on the skyline diffusor that you have on th wall behind the speakers. I am thinking of making a DIY kind.

gallant_diva

Mike:

Long time no talk.

The Hong Kong made CD that you mentioned is excellent. I myself have it and several others similar works of art. Somehow, I find Far East Audiophile recordings to be much better.

With regard to the skyline diffusor, I am doing it a DIY panel. Did it have a good effect on your imaging?

gallant_diva

Mike:

These are the wonders of Internet forums, which let several jealous people jump to their keyboards and bring out their own frustrations, on the name of freedom to speak.

I have been a victim of this too, although mine is very humble setup compared to yours. There is only one solution to deal with these: IGNORE THEM. Trust me, the more you explain, worse it can get. There is no need to debate such things on a rational basis.

Do not let these comments affect your hobby and enthusiasm.

Having met you in person, I can attest that you are a great and generous indvidual.

cheers.

gallant_diva

I am posting my response to what you said on the Digital Product Review thread.

I am so glad that my suggestion for moving your speakers apart has worked well for you. That is great. I was also glad that you also liked and kept my suggestions for some changes in the tweeter setup. This is the best reward for me when a fellow listener benefits from my suggestion.

As I expected your system could have better imaging and more layering of the soundstage. I would also imagine you have more depth now. There are just so many parameters in system setup, including the electronics and room acoustics that it is impossible (at least for me) to just follow dealer's advice or manufacturer's recommendations. Ultimately, you are the judge because it is your system and you are living with it.

As far as I am concerned, I can only wish to listen to your system again, now with these changes. I just have this "bad" habit of constantly tweaking my system and fine tuning the positioning of my speakers. I think it stems from the fact that Apogee are very fussy when it comes to placement. It has taken my years to find their optimal placement. Recently, I made some changes in the resistors and caps in their crossover, and I end up moving the speakers one inch wider apart on each side. Such is the atrocity of this hobby that even a small component change can warrant a big system wide change.

Congatulations

gallant_diva


Hi Mike:

Thank you for your gracious hospitality. It was one of the most satisfying listening sessions I have had at someone's house. I probably can write an article, or a set of articles, each describing separately your house, your garden. your system, and your hospitality itself :)

Folks, this system kicks butts, especially with the Sirius turntable, which in my opinion totally justifies every bit of its "coveted" price tag. It was vintage analog at its glorious best.

The room and its surrouding areas are simply awesome, a state-of-the-art that is highly professionally done, offering the best of aesthetics as well as acoustics. Well done, Mike, well done!

Mike, we had so much to talk about, in terms of music, amps, sources, cables, and speakers. I would love to visit you again if I am ever in that area. You are very welcome to visit me as well.

Thank you again and my sincere congratulations on your great achievements in reaching the frontiers of this hobby.

gallant_diva

awesome, stunning, and spectacular. Mike, you set a new standard in audio passion!

gallant_diva

very interesting product this Equi=tech is. Thank you for introducing this, Mike. I was looking for something like that.

GD

gallant_diva

Mike, you give a very accurate description of what a dedicated listener goes through, as opposed to the guy who is immediately happy with every change he makes.

Once I compared a very cheap audio component with a hugely expensive one. I ended up buying the cheap one but I went through something like the following sequence: eye browse raised, became curious, found interesting and intriguing, started to like, impressed, disbelief, doubts, impressed, very impressed, totally in love.

Normally, this does not happen if you dislike something very obviously.

Congrats on your new speaker.

gallant_diva

Mike:

Your setup is totally impressive, showing your love for audio and taste in room setup. Congratulations!

I am currently going through a major change in my own setup. I am building a new house with a dedicated media room. A lot of thoughts have gone into designing and building that room, but with a modest budget. The house is now complete and I am ready to move, naturally my audio stuff will move first. I will start posting some pictures on my system.

Your room gives me some ideas and inspiration as to how to setup the interior. I particularly like your shelves for CDs and records. I will also do extensive acoustic treatment, all in DIY style.

Again, your room is awesome. I do have a humble suggestion though. I would buy a listening chair with its back height lower than your ear level. With your ears free of any obstacle and the sound reflection from the back wall will make tremendous improvements in your sound quality. And of course, such a seat can still be comfortable and exotic in its looks.

GD

gallant_diva