Jarraa,

They both sound fantastic honestly but I haven't listened to the SATI long enough to draw real conclusions.

The best person to ask would be Jeff at Highwater Sound.

latinsamba1 May 01, 2012 19:53

Hi Pcosta,

The other speakers to consider are the Cessaro Chopins. I just heard them paired with Thoress amps and they would be perfect for your room. Extremely dynamic with an absolutely huge soundstage. Since you are in the market for the Telstar.... :)

latinsamba1 May 01, 2012 19:11

Thanks for the info Latinsamba. If I recall correctly, you listened to the Hornings with both the SATI 520b and the Tron amp. Could you shed some light on the differences in what you heard between the two.

Pcosta,
Are you also looking at the discovery or just the 211? Curious as I have a slightly smaller room (11x17) and am looking at either one. Thanks!
assad

jarraa May 01, 2012 12:06

LatinSamba,
Thanks for the info! Also, if I recall correctly, you have heard Hornings paired with both Tron and Hornings (520b) amps. Was wondering if you could shed some light on what you thought the differences were. Thanks

Pcosta,
Curious to know what's leaning you towards the 211 vs the Discovery (especially for that room size and Aristotles). I ask cause I am looking at Tron amps (looking with eyes ...wallet is telling me otherwise ;) to power the Aristotles as well. Thanks

jarraa May 01, 2012 09:52

I have heard the Tron Telstar many times in Denver and last summer at Jeff's High Water Sound.
I am considering the Horning's like you have, because it is the proper size speaker for my room. My room is 12X21, but I do not have any restrictions on placement because I have a dedicated listening room.

pcosta May 01, 2012 08:50

Hi Pcosta,

I'm really enjoying the Aristotles and find them to be a good match for my 12x25 room. In terms of room treatment I only have tall potted plants in the corners which helped tame my acoustically live room a bit. Not willing to go further right now because my listening room is my living room. I have tried a few placements and they sound best about 20" off the side walls with about 2ft of back space.

On the Telstar you certainly won't be disappointed! I have heard it paired with both Horning and Cessaro speakers and the sound is absolutely incredible. Which speakers are you considering?

latinsamba1 April 30, 2012 19:11

Looks great. How are you enjoying the Hornings. Have you experimented with placement? Are you using any room treatments. What size room are they in.

I am thinking of entering the world of SET and I am looking at the Tron Telstar to finish off my setup, but I would have to give up my Verity's because they are just to tough a load for 12 watts.

pcosta April 30, 2012 05:44

I have the Hornings sitting on a pair of 3" thick maple platforms with 1" brass cones. I had them laying around from when they were previously used with my amps. The sound maybe warmed up slightly which was a good thing in my acoustically live room. The main thing was the added soundstage height which just gives them a bigger sound overall IMO.

latinsamba1 April 28, 2012 22:33

Hi Jarrah,

I have the Hornings sitting on a pair of 3" thick maple platforms with 1" brass cones. I had them laying around from when they were previously used with my amps. The sound maybe warmed up slightly which was a good thing in my acoustically live room. The main thing was the added soundstage height which just gives them a bigger sound overall IMO.

latinsamba1 April 28, 2012 22:32

Hey Latinsamba1,
Cool photos of a really cool rig. Question for you on the hornings ... what do you have underneath them? My raven 1/10,5 combo is keeping me happy but I can't wait to have Jeff get me my Hornings .... Glad you are in a happy state.

jarraa April 28, 2012 22:08

System edited: I finally got my Raven AC table and thought I'd share pics of the current setup. Many changes over the last 6 months! Now it's time for me to relax a bit and just enjoy the music...

latinsamba1 April 28, 2012 16:55

I am not certain but I believe the full function preamp only goes up to Ultimate. Regardless I can't imagine anyone wanting more :)

latinsamba1 February 16, 2012 17:35

Yes, that's true, the less cabling and the fact that instead of having 2 references, one can have a GT ... but alas, my eyes are bigger than my wallet. Thanks for that info!
-assad

jarraa February 15, 2012 21:33

Hi Jarraa,

I have heard the individual phono stage but not in my system. From what Jeff told me I don't think you are giving up anything sonically with the one box preamp with phono. For me the decision was simple - less cables, less shelf space and lower total cost.

latinsamba1 February 15, 2012 16:48

Latinsamba1,
Curious to know if you were comparing the Tron line stage and separate phono stage to the preamp with a built in phono stage. I am in a similar boat and first thought of getting standard phono and line stage ...but if I couple them together ...I could get an ultimate or GT edition one box. Your thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks!
-assad

jarraa February 14, 2012 19:06

Swapped my AZ Matrix Ref IIs for a pair of Au24e interconnects between the Tron pre and the amps. Not as dramatic as upgrading to the Au24e speaker cables but definitely a nice improvement. I will likely leave my Silver Ref IIs in the chain because this combination sounds really good with my SACD player.

latinsamba1 January 29, 2012 18:59

Great choices!!!

Enjoy!

kennythekey January 25, 2012 15:21

Hi Kenny,

The waiting part for the table is certainly painful but it will be well worth it I hope!

I'm getting a Raven AC-1 with the TW 10.5 arm. I already have an Ortofon Cadenza Black cartridge which I heard with that arm on a Raven One (and pretty much started my whole system transformation about a year ago). Very exciting stuff!

latinsamba1 January 25, 2012 12:24

did you order a table and if so which one?

audiofreakgeek January 25, 2012 11:26

Tick-tok-tick-tok...You're not geting a little anxious waiting for that table?!!!

Enjoy!

kennythekey January 24, 2012 20:53

System update: Bought an Audio Desk record cleaning machine to help me get a vinyl collection going. I have cleaned about 100 LPs with it so far and feel it was really worth the money. Quiet and does an excellent job. Looking forward to hitting a few used vinyl shops around NYC this weekend to have plenty of music ready for when my turntable arrives next month!

latinsamba1 January 12, 2012 12:18

Thanks Latinsamba1, you have helped to reinforce my conclusions about the Horning Speakers.

Good listening!
Kenny

kennythekey January 05, 2012 21:45

Yes, the Omegas have an incredible midrange but the Aristotles must be amazing. Looks like you've taken a significant step forward. A while ago I was scheming to obtain Horning speakers but they were out of my price range. I can't wait to see photos.....

devilboy January 05, 2012 17:14

Yes, the Omegas have an incredible midrange but the Aristotles must be amazing. Looks like you've taken a significant step forward. A while ago I was scheming to obtain Horning speakers but they were out of my price range. I can't wait to see photos.....

devilboy January 05, 2012 17:10

In my room the Aristotles throw a larger soundstage with real depth and flesh around instruments and vocals. They also seem to pressurize the room with air in much the same way that I feel real instruments do. The midrange is as clear, natural and open as my Omegas but the overall sound is much better balanced across the whole frequency range. Bass in particular is more articulate and authoritative than I am used to even positioned a few feet out from the front wall. I wish I had a bigger room to allow them to really "breathe" as my living room is only 12ft wide but over 25ft long including the kitchen it opens to in the back. Even so, I am very happy with the improvements.

I'm also a fan of the TW tables and will be getting mine within the next month hopefully!

latinsamba1 January 05, 2012 11:50