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My room was purpose build using the ratio described by Floyd Toole from the Canadian Research council.

Have 20 dedicated 15 amp circuits, 4x20 amp circuits and 2 220 volt 60 amp circuits. The wall construction is 12" thick ,made up of a double wall of 2x4 studs at 16 oc with the studs staggered ,insulation (rock wool), t&g 3/4 plywood glued and screwed, then the drywall is glued with a v notch trowel. This room is so quiet the music can flow with absolutely no distractions. This is a great way to enjoy the music at the end of long day of work.

Many many changes have taken place since posting my system here.

Decided to repaint the room a much lighter colour to lighten things up for reading in the room.

Using the darTZeel pre amp with two different amps. The first amp in this system is the Wyetech Topaz 211 and second one is the darTZeel amp.

Both bring forth tremendous musical enjoyment albeit different presentations.

Mike L turned my focus back to vinyl after being at his home many years ago. Had my Lp and gear packed up until Mike opened up my eyes/ears.

Now LP playback is 90% vinyl and 10% digital.

Steve Dobbins came by last weekend to deliver and set up the KODO the Beat.

Tonearm on the BEAT is the Reed P3 along with the Kuzma Airline. Room for one more.......

Second table is my Verdier which I bought after visiting Mike L's place.

Using a FR 64s and purchased an ET-2 which will be upgraded to a 2.5 in the next month pending Bruce's schedule.

Studer Tape deck plays a role too but is limited due to lack of tapes. Having spent funds on vinyl rigs and arm/cartridges leaves the deck out side of the music room.

Thanks for reading and take care.
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    • KODO THE BEAT
    Custom build direct drive turntable by Steve Dobbins. Has a separate power supply and speed controller.
    Can accommodate three tonearms.
    • JC Verdier La Platine
    Great turntable
    • Technics SP-10 MKII
    Direct drive from the late 70s. This one is in mint condition. Will start building different types of plinths for the turntables that I have recently purchased. They will be made out of combinations of slate, alloys and homebrew plywood using veneers and an 80 ton press.
    • Kuzma Airline
    Airline
    • Fidelity Research FR 64S
    With VTA adjuster
    • Fidelity Research FR 24 MK II
    One Ikeda's early arms. Looking for an copy of the original manual of this arm.
    • Reed 3P
    12
    • Eminent Technology ET-2
    ET 2 will be shipped to Bruce Thigpen to get updated to a 2.5 version and get a full check over.
    • Dynavector XV-1S
    Great sounding cartridge
    • Ortofon A90
    Their latest top flight cartridge.
    • Lyra Kleos SL1
    Low output moving coil Kleos.
    SL stands for single layer
    • Empire 4000 DIII GOLD
    MM Cartridge from the golden era
    • Grace F9-E
    Had this one on my first Rega 3
    • Denon 103 R
    Denon MC
    • Denon 103
    Second moving coil that I purchased after buying the Kuzma Airline.
    • Allnic H-3000V
    Phono stage which allows the use of two MM and two MC
    • Loricraft PRC-3
    Lp cleaner
    • Audio Research CD7.5
    Reference CD player
    • Aural Symphonics Magic Gem v2t
    Very good power best that I have heard in my system. Powering the Audio Research CD-7.
    • McIntosh MR-78
    Great sounding FM
    • Wilson Audio Maxx II
    Great sounding full range speaker
    • Wilson Audio Puppy 5.1
    Wilson Watt Puppies
    • Wilson Audio Watch Center
    Center
    • Wilson Audio Watch Dog
    Wilson Watch Dog
    • Nordost Valhalla
    Nordost Valhalla
    Have this as my interconnect through out the system excapt for the zeel connect between darTZeel preamp and darTZeel amp.
    • Nordost Valhalla Speaker cable
    High resolution speaker cable
    • Stillpoints Dampers and Risers
    Isolation device
    • Theta Digital Casablanca max
    Casablanca III with Extreme Dacs
    • Sony VPL-VW100 Ruby
    Great looking projector and stunning picture
    • Stewart Screen 110
    Luxus Delux Gey Hawk
    • Slim Devices Transporter
    Computer based server with with its own DA
    • Balanced Audio Technologies VK-6200
    200 watt five channel Home Theater amp
    • Toshiba HD-XA2
    High definition HD DVD player with great upscaling on SD DVD
    • Dartzeel 18 NHB-18S
    Solid state preamp purchased and hoping for a Xmas delivery.
    Ordered with two phono stages.
    • darTZeel NHB-108 model one Version B
    Solid state amp made in Switzerland.
    • AUDIENCE ar12
    Top notch ac filtering 20 amp unit made for Wally of Wally Tractor fame.
    • Audience aR6-T
    Used for the amps at the front of the room.
    • Wyetech TOPAZ 211 A
    18 watt SET with the gold plated Audio Note Transformers.
    • Studer A810
    Vintage 1/4 inch 1/2 track.
    You have to hear it to believe it.
    Makes great vinyl sound like MP3.
    • Studer A810
    My second Studer. This will be used in another system.
    • Nordost Brahma
    Power cord for the Aestehtix IO
    • HOMEBUILD Amp Stand
    4 inch thick Jatoba ( Brazilian Cherry) wood
    • Sutherland TIMELINE
    Strobe light to check turntable speed. Two speeds only 33 1/3 and 45 RPM. Very accurate and easy to use.
    • Allnic Speednic
    Strobe for Turntable to check speed accuracy.
    • HARMONIC RESOLUTION SYSTEM ANALOG DISC CLAMP
    Record clamp/weight
    • Unknown Ebony LP weight
    Ebony disc weight
    • Custom LP racks Apple plywood
    Never enough room for LP storage, so I took over the front entrance with my wife's permission of course.
    • Modified IKEA shelving Walnut gables
    Wanted a storage area with sliding doors to hide various tapes, LPs Blue rays and misc.
    • Modified IKEA shelving Walnut gables part II
    Picture of sliding doors open
    • Canadian Tire Tool Chest
    Hold all of tubes,cartridges, footers, set up tools.
    • TEL WIRE HC Power cord 8 feet
    TEL WIRE HC Great synergy in my system. Beautifully finished and the Oyaide connectors are of the best quality. Extremely happy with them.
    • Acoustical-systems P2S
    Direct measuring and marking system made by Dertonarm. Quality is very high and very easy to use.
    • JBL Hartsfield
    Rosewood matched pair.

Comments 296

Very nice system. I love your choice of amps and speakers.
;) Does your Watch center blend in well with the Watt/Puppys? I'm placing an order for one and have been running on phantom center so far.

statman

Owner
Bflowers
Nice choices to have for your system.
The Valhalla that I now own was additioned in 3 meter lenghts. My local dealer did not have anything longer to try out. I also tried out Kimber cable, Transparent, and Kubala. I had to bite the bullet and hope that in longer lenghts that it would still sound the same. I also use long runs of the Valhalla, 33 feet for my front three channels in balanced mode.

Digital source, tought question to answer. I have not listened to any of the new gear accept the the EMM labs and the Audio aero. The Meridian received a great review but I do not trust all of the reviewers.
I would not use the analog pass through on the Casablanca if you want the best sound. I had to use it for a short while (loaned my ASR to a friend) and did not enjoy at all. If the CD source has a volume control as the Wadia and others do, use it and do not use the Theta in the loop.
Theta makes a outboard anolog box, Six shooter and they also make a 2 channel box. This way the Casablanca is only used for volume control only and the analog signal never goes into the Casablaca.

I have never had the chance to listen to any of the Boulder gear so I cannot comment.
The ASR was on loan to me for a weekend. It was so GOOD that I bought it same Monday. The unit was hooked up and played for 48 hours on repeat, listened with my wife on Saturday until 3 AM. The listening session went by so fast and was so enjoyable that I just had to have the ASR. It is by far the best amp that I have ever listened to.
Over the years I have demo'd lots of gear over extended time periods but this ASR took just one night to buy. To this day I am extremly happy with my choice.

I will now digress and recommend if you can and want a true high end 2 channel system try a good turntable. I did and it really blew me away.
That is why I now use my new turntable 90% of the time.

rugyboogie

Owner
Perfectionist
Sorry for taking so long to get back to you.
The four post are made of 3 inch steel tubing and the horizonlal pieces are 2 1/2 inch steel. All welds are heli arc type and the connections are openend so that the lead shot and silica sand can flow freely when being filled. The lead shot and silica sand are filled in three lifts so that everything can setttle by using a concrete vibrator touching the bottom of the shelves and columns. It is critical to wrap the the vibrator with cloth so not chip the powder coat finish when making contact with metal shelves or posts.
The spikes/feet are made out of a combination of stainless steel (contact with ground) and aircraft aluminium in a cone shape to allow for leveling of the rack. The feet/cones are 3 inches tall.
The shelves are made out of combination of materials.The lamination from top to bottom are as follows. Black South African granite, MDF, Black Brazilian slate(known as Mustang slate) and then Baltic birch. I used Bostich best latex glue, PL premium polyurethane, and epoxy to glue the layers together.
I am right now experimenting with small inflatable inner tubes between the last layer (mini air suspension system) to see if I can hear any thing different.
The weight of the rack including the lead shot, sand and shelves is 815 lbs.

rugyboogie

Enjoyed looking at your system. Some elements are similar to mine. It looks like you may have approached setting up you system in a way similar to what I am contemplating. I think you are several years ahead of me:-) I'm new to the high end, and working to construct my system. I have begun to enter my system on audiogon...still need the photos and a few more details. As I have begun this journey, I have learned a great deal and made a few mistakes(some bad equiptment, more bad dealers). Anyway, I'm trudging along and enjoying the music so far, knowing I can get more out of these Maxx's.
So far the plan is:
1. Get new interconnects (challenging to demo because I need a 30ft run to do so). Have a Tara Labs(0.8) on the way to demo. Will use that to get some sense of what an improved interconnect will do. Am thinking about Valhalla, but hard to demo. How did you choose Valhalla?

2. Get a better digital source. Many choices out there and approaches. What I am thinking about doing is getting a high quality CD player and running it analog bypass through the Theta for now, with the ultimate idea of buying a good 2 channel preamp in the future. I am looking at Accuphase DR 78, DCS P8i, Meridian 808 sig. Any thoughts?

3. Get a better amp. Have you listened to boulder? How did you ultimately decide on the emitter?

Thanks for endulging the neophyte:-)

bflowers

Can you tell us about the rack please?

perfectionist

Owner
System update.
I just received my new Loricraft PC-3. This is such a great LP cleaner that anyone that enjoy's analog, this is a must have.
My turntable and tonearm are working every night now, re-discovering my old LP collection and buying lots of new and used vinyl.
When I have more time I will write a review on the the Kuzma airline. (IT IS GREAT)
Too busy with all of the summer time activities to write anymore.

Enjoing the summer.

rugyboogie

Thanks for the feedback....my room is not gigantic by any means and I do not go for very loud levels of listening.

henryhk

Owner
Henryk
I spent the better part of 4 hrs listening to the two Emitters.
The ASR I is extremely good under all circumstances. In my opinion, it lacks the overall dynamic slam of the ASR II. If you listen at moderatley loud levels the ASR I will be fine, but if you like to play your music loud then you can overtax it.
IMO the ASR II will give you better dynamics with your present speakers at higher listening levels, but if you don't push like crazy, the ASR I is a real honey.
The ASR I is extremely quiet and has tons of resolution and it is very dynamic.
If the ASR II did not exist I would not miss a thing.
I listened to them with Avantegarde DUOs and the new JM Labs. I really enjoyed listening to both speakers. The difference on the DUOs with both ASR s was not very big because of their high effciency. On the Labs it showed more of a difference at higher listening levels.
I don't think you can go wrong with either unit. If your listening room is not of gigantic proportions then go for the ASR I.

rugyboogie

Really appreciated, Rugyboogie. Sensitivity 89.

henryhk

Owner
Henryhk
I am seeing my ASR dealer his Friday. I will see if I can borrow the ASR Emitter Exclusive I or at least audition the two side by side. The dealer also carries the JM Lab speaker line so that is what I will be using to evaluate if I cannot bring the unit home. Once I know what the differences are I will report back to you with my findings.
How efficient are your Kharmas?

rugyboogie

Very inspiring! One more question, if I may. Do you think there is much of a difference btwn Exclusive 1 and 2 other than power ratings? I can afford the 2 but 4 boxes are bit to handle and place!

henryhk

Owner
Henryhk
I am enjoying the ASR immensely with all types of music. The control that they have over the Wilsons is really something special. Before the purchase of the ASR I was looking at speakers. I thought I needed, or was lacking a little bit more control and heft in the bottom end. The Wilson and ML33 combo are great but none of the preamps that I tried really allowed the 33s to shine.The CAT that I owned was to my ears the best that I had access to.
Along came the ASR and how things have changed. The bass is tighter and goes deeper that the CAT, ML combo. Now this might be because of the tubes but when I compared the CAT to the ML32 it was not night and day especially in the bottom end.
The whole presentation is just so much more ALIVE with the ASR.
The dead quiet comes from having the battery as a supply for the critical stage. The ac power disconnects from the PSU battery once the ASR is in music mode. I believe this one of the big reasons why I get so much of being there when I listen to music.
You mention the "transported to the venue". I enjoy this every night.
I listen to so much more music since I bought the ASR, buying more music and rediscover my old music again. I even bought a Vinyl rig which I play every day as well.
It is like a drug. I want it over and over again.
Hope this helps

rugyboogie

Hey Rugboogie....I went to a dealer to audtion the ASR: it was very promising indeed and clearly better than what I have and was very good value compared to others. However the dealer had only monitor speakers in place so could not really hear how it did bass...and I have heard some comments that bass was a tad light though tight. Does this confim what you think? How do they drive your Wilsons?

To me their strongest point was the absolute lack of noise as well treble. Tone was not dark yet detailed (Lamm?) nor sweet and cohesive (NHB) but airy, dead quiet, as if not the artists were brought to the room but I was transported to the recording venue. However, it was only 2 hrs at a dealer set up. Would appreciate your input as I am trying to decide what to do and the retailers here sadly do not allow for extended (even short!) home auditions.

henryhk

Owner
System edited: Playing Vinyl once again. Having lots of fun and really enyoying the music.

rugyboogie

Owner
System edited: Today I received and assembled the JC Verdier, my new turntable. The tonearm is on order which should arrive next week. Looking forward to having it all come together.

rugyboogie

Owner
Nrostov your welcome. Hope it helps
On this coming Monday I will pick up my new turntable. I will post pictures but of course no arm. The decision to buy the arm has been made easier by posting KUZMA VS AIRTANGENT on Audiogon. Thanks to the helps of those that have posted I will buy...... the Kuzma Air Line Bearing Tonearm.
My next biggie will be the cartridge. Koetsu, owned one and was happy but Dynavector, ZYX, Van den Hul are also contenders any advice or opinions.
Thanks as always.

rugyboogie

Thank You!

nrostov

Owner
Nrostov
Yes, it was the Hydra 8. But please addition the Hydra as well as the Thor. Things as you know are very system dependent and I am sure you would be happy with either, but do try them both. Let me know what works in your setup.
BTW nice system especially the speakers, heard them about a year ago and really liked them.

rugyboogie

was it the shunyata hydra 8 that you compared it to?
I have been considering the Hydra.

nrostov

Owner
Nrostov
The Thor has become a component rather than a tweak. The Shunyata and Monster were the other filters that I tried. The Monster did not make the music come together. It made the sound stage sound one dimensional. Not too much imaging, sounded better with no treatment.
I have done extensive wiring, isolation, along with dedicated grounds, dedicated breaker panel for my system. Wraped lead around wires, every wire minimum 14" away from each other.
The Shunyata was a very good unit to have up against the Thor for evaluation but after two weeks we (Wife and I) came to the conclusion that Thor stays. The source was always my Mark Levinson digital gear for two channel audio.
The differences were suttle but still clear in favor of the Thor. Low frequencies were more articulate, faster and pitch was better. Female vocalist were just "more there" in the room with us. The stage or the recording venue was much easier to distinguish along with all of the suttleties of the musicians stage presence.
A point of interest was that when my Theta and the Pioneer was plugged into the Thor the resolution in picture quality was much sharper, better solid colours and better depth. Sound is much better especially low level resolution when I use it in my Home theater set up.
So yes I am happy with the Thor and will be buying a second one for my vinyl set up once it all comes together. Tone arm hunting right now.
To all of the Mom's Happy Mothers day.

rugyboogie

How do you like the Thor AC filter? How does it compare to others you have used?

P.S. The Pioneer is a great DVD player.

nrostov

Rugyboogie,

You are very welcome. You will be enjoying more than you can imagine. I look forward to seeing where you end up.

dgad

Owner
Dgad
Thanks for the tip. Just read the review at 6 Moons and what a review it was. I have contacted the rep for North America to find out availability for the Conductor tonearm. I will be taking delivery of the Platine next week and will have to find an arm to play my LP's with. Otherwise I will be staring at the table.
I guess it is better than looking at pictures.
By the way NICE system. I saw and read about your turntable a few weeks ago, very impressive. The review was in german and luckily I can read german.
Nothing but praises for the table. I will look to Ebay for the Ikeda tonearm since there is no one on Audiogon that sells the arm.

rugyboogie

For the money get the Ikeda if you use a cartridge that requires a high effective mass arm. There are lots of great cartridges & tonearms these days. Most of them tend to have low compliance and require high effective mass. If you can do a tangent tracker go for it. I am curious about the new one from Music Maker. It is very reasonably priced.

dgad

Owner
Well I just about drove myself nuts, but I finally pulled the trigger and went with the JC Verdier table. This decision was probably one of the most difficult due to the fact that I could not audition the tables. I posted the question Galibier vs Verdier and received lots of great input thanks to all that answered. Tom at Galibier has been great, first class all the way but my heart decided to go with the French table. Next is to figure out which tonearm/cartridge combo. There are so many tonearm's, looking at a SME 3012 (thanks Addi), Graham Phantom (thanks Mike L), Ikeda Triplaner (big thanks to Raul for all your help and answers), Schroeder and maybe a tangent tracker?
Then comes the cartridge....

Any advice or opinion?

rugyboogie

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