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This system is nine years in the making. It used to be a combined home theater and stereo system. Four years ago I eliminated the home theater and refined the two channel stereo. The most recent changes have been the addition of a Metrum Octave Mk.II DAC, to replace a Peachtree iDecco and upgraded drivers to my Zu Audio Essence speakers. While the new Metrum DAC resulted in a startling improvement in the system's digital audio presentation, it was the new Zu Audio nanotech drivers that have made the most dramatic improvement to the system as a whole.
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    • Manley Laboratories Shrimp
    Beautifully clean line stage.
    • Manley Laboratories Neo-Classic SE/PP 300b
    Amazing mono block amplifiers. Speed, clarity, detail, I'll never part with these...
    • VPI Industries Scout
    Upgraded Scout: Vpi scoutmaster acrylic platter, Vpi ring and record clamp, Vpi super feet.
    • Vpi Industries Synchronous Drive
    Sets speed stability on the turntable motor.
    • Zu Audio Essence Mk. 1-b
    My latest acquisition. Much maligned, unfairly. Amazing detail, great dynamics, wonderful soundstage, great lower midrange onto the bass. A bit shy on the last octave, but great all around performer. Shockingly good match to my amps, spooky realism.
    • Zu Audio Mini-Method
    Sealed cabinet, 2 10" drivers.
    • Zu Audio Bok
    Significantly reduced my noise floor. The last bit of sonic holography is due to these marvels...
    • Zu Audio Mission
    All my RCA interconnects are Zu Audio Missions.
    • Zu Audio Libtec
    Short run speaker cables. They are reputed to be the most appropriate to power the Zu Essence speakers.
    • Linn Linto
    This is a very nice, accurate, detailed phono stage.
    • Benz Micro L2 MC
    Glorious wood bodied moving coil cartridge. Very detailed, yet smooth and dynamic without getting harsh at the top end except with the hottest recordings...
    • Metrum Acoustics Octave Mk. II
    Beautifully clear sounding non-oversampling DAC.
    • iFi Audio iUSB
    Power isolator for USB transport
    • iFi Audio Gemini
    Dual USB cable.
    • Furman Elite 20 PF
    Line cleaner, hooks up my front end, clean unadulterated sound.
    • Denon 2910
    Universal player.
    • Salamander Archetype 5.0
    Solid and adjustable audiophile rack.
    • Apple Computer 2012 Mac Mini
    16 GB RAM, alternately running Pure Music and Amarra.

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Hi Iramirez, I also own a VPI scout with a Micro Benz Wood L2 cartridge. What tracking weight do you use? Mine is set to 1.8 gramms which is recommandation. But I experience the cartridge is very sensitive, so raising the weight might be better. What weight do you use?

Ronald

vergeerr

Owner
Isochronism,

Well, you certainly proved your point regarding patience and computers. We all have had our moments with the damned things. I generally manage them fairly well... a few operator errors along the way.

Yeah, I read Harvey Rosenberg's review of my amplifiers a long time ago. His review certainly influenced my decision to buy them. I really took a chance with them at the time because my speakers were not optimal for SET amps. The original setup did not do the amps justice, but even then I could tell that the SET sound was quite special. I ended up bi-amping the speakers, using a tubed active crossover, to great success. I remember how shocked I was at the realism and detail...

Cheers,

Ivan

iramirez

Edit: Wow!! I did one post.... see why I have no patience with computers.
The Audio Gods of Higher Consciousness felt a reason for this... :)

isochronism

Ivan, I can certainly relate with your last two sentences.
I had put in much time researching this forum's members experiences and also the web in general before deciding on my system's amplification/speaker type.
If you are not familiar with the late Harvey Rosenberg's "Triode Guild", you are in for a treat of much entertaining reading. For me, SET was my obvious choice and I then went full-steam ahead with no regrets!
I can imagine you're enjoyment.

isochronism

Ivan, I can certainly relate with your last two sentences.
I had put in much time researching this forum's members experiences and also the web in general before deciding on my system's amplification/speaker type.
If you are not familiar with the late Harvey Rosenberg'

isochronism

Ivan, I can certainly relate with your last two sentences.
I had put in much time researching this forum's members experiences and also the web in general before deciding on my system's amplification/speaker type. If you are not familiar with the late Harvey Rosenberg's "Triode Guild%

isochronism

Owner
Isochronism,

In all fairness, it is partly my fault. I should have checked the M2Tech site to see if there was a problem before upgrading the OS. Also, it really is not a problem of the media, but the transport.
I certainly won't have aproblem sharing what we learn. I imagine Charles won't either. It seems to me that the only way we really can make our way through this strange hobby, considering how difficult it is to audition any of the equipment, is by collaborating and trying to give as faithful an account of our experiences. I know that I owe a great debt to all those who have shared their knowledge in this forum. Their shared experience built my system.

Cheers,

Ivan

iramirez

Iremirez, That is why I like physical media.
I am looking forward to you and Charles getting together and reading a report back.
The melding of the the art of music and the art of the technical equipment designers/builders to reproduce that for us at will....
Sharing and enjoying together is why we are here

isochronism

Hi,
Sounds like a plan. I look forward to it.
Charles,

charles1dad

Owner
Charles,

I would be very happy to get together. I am a little frustrated right now because my digital gear is out of commission. Apple upgraded its operating system and it has rendered the M2Tech driver on my Metrum Octave inoperable. Supposedly M2Tech is working on upgrading their driver. As soon as they do that I will contact you so that we can arrange for a session...

Cheers,

Ivan

iramirez

Iramirez,
I do share the same curiosity as to what I'd hear differently from the these two speaker designs. I imagine both can be very good sounding but with different presentations. Same scenario regarding the SET amplifiers.
I'm happy to do this interesting comparison when the time is good for you.
Charles,

charles1dad

Owner
Charles,

Yes, I remember when we talked about getting together to audition each other's systems. I certainly would like to do that. I think that you are probably right, that our systems will share a similar presentation. However, I have to admit that your system is much further along in refinement and coherence at this point. You clearly have taken much care to isolate your system from power line nasties and have invested rather well in vibration control mechanisms... and I imagine your line stage puts mine to shame.

I am quite curious about the differences between my Manley amps and your Franks. I am betting that your Franks will be smoother and more detailed overall. I have often considered switching to them, but I wonder whether I would miss the flexibility that the feedback control on my Manleys provide. Also, I am really curious about your speakers. I think that the perceived differences between our speakers would have been quite stark if we had auditioned them prior to the cap and driver upgrade that I just got. I was never quite content with my Zu's before the upgrade. I felt that they were a bit lacking in microdynamic detail and provided too shallow a soundstage... especially considering what I knew the 300b's could do. The driver and cap upgrade eliminated those issues. I think that the interesting comparison between our speakers will bear upon the single vs multiple driver approach to speaker design. I imagine that differences speed, dynamics and, perhaps, midrange voicing will be readily apparent.

So, yes, I think that getting together to compare systems would be both illuminating and quite enjoyable... it would be particularly fun to trade stories with a fellow 300b journeyman. And, I promise not to play my Zu's too loud. Too loud is all too easy now that they are 16ohm 100db efficient.

iramirez

Hi,
I made an offer before and it still stands. I've never heard Zu speakers in a home system(only shows and it was played much too loud for me). You're welcome to hear my system if you'd like to. Our system's are probably more similar than different. Thanks for your kind words.
Charles,

charles1dad

Owner
Thank you, Charles, that means a lot coming from you. I would have great difficulty imagining a system that would be on par with yours! Ha, no, I can't see myself ever "going back." I expect I am only going further in...

We live quite close to each other, perhaps we could audition each other's systems sometime... I'd love to compare your Yamamoto to my Octave, amongst other things.

iramirez

Very nice!
This is a well thought out audio system and surely must sound exceptionally good. I see you've discovered the sheer joys of SET amplification, there may be no going back(smile).
Charles,

charles1dad

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